Why AlphaEvolve Is Already Obsolete: When AI Discovers The Next Transformer | Machine Learning Street Talk Podcast
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Robert Lange, founding researcher at Sakana AI, joins Tim to discuss Shinka Evolve - a framework that combines LLMs with evolutionary algorithms to do open-ended program search. The core claim: systems like AlphaEvolve can optimize solutions to fixed problems, but real scientific progress requires co-evolving the problems themselves. In this episode: - Why AlphaEvolve gets stuck: it needs a human to hand it the right problem. Shinka Evolve tries to invent new problems automatically, drawing on ideas from POET, PowerPlay, and MAP-Elites quality-diversity search.