Vibe coding and agentic engineering are getting closer than I'd like

I recently talked with Joseph Ruscio about AI coding tools for Heavybit's High Leverage podcast: Ep., The AI Coding Paradigm Shift with Simon Willison. Here are some of my highlights, including my disturbing realization that vibe coding and agentic engineering have started to converge in my own work. One thing I really enjoy about podcasts is that they sometimes push me to think out loud in a way that exposes an idea I've not previously been able to put into words.